Friday, October 26, 2007
Fleecing
We just got ripped off by a guy in uniform, and no, I'm not talking about certain specialised clubs here in Moscow.
When you arrive in Russia, you have 3 days to register your visa with the authorities. We knew it had to be done, and the hostel here in Moscow took copies of our passports and visas to register them.
What we didn't know was that we would be given a "stub", a piece of paper proving that we'd registered. Nor did we actually know about the 3-day limit. So when we were asked by a policeman and his interpreter outside the Kremlin why we didn't have the stub when it was later than 1pm on the day after we arrived, we told him that the hostel was registering it and the stub just hadn't reached us yet.
You might be wondering why the policeman said it needed to have been done by 1pm on the day after arrival, when we have 3 days to get it done. It's because he was setting the interpreter up for the phrase "Well, now there is problem..." The interpreter even had a piece of paper printed out which had the dubious deadline on it. Then he took me aside from Triny and told me that we would have to be arrested, go to the station, get the embassy involved, and the eventual fine would be 3000 roubles each. On the other hand, he said, there is a non-protocol way to deal with it.
End result was a 5000 rouble (£100 ish) cash "fine", and a promise on my part not to talk to anyone about this "unofficial" solution.
It's a bit annoying, because he was playing on my ignorance of the laws about the deadline for registration. Mind you, he also had our passports in his hands and a van load of mates behind him, which seemed to qualify as an instant position of power. I'm trying to look on it as just one of those things.
We are know back in our room trying to decide whether we go out and get some dinner now, or wait until later when our stubs should hopefully have arrived.
When you arrive in Russia, you have 3 days to register your visa with the authorities. We knew it had to be done, and the hostel here in Moscow took copies of our passports and visas to register them.
What we didn't know was that we would be given a "stub", a piece of paper proving that we'd registered. Nor did we actually know about the 3-day limit. So when we were asked by a policeman and his interpreter outside the Kremlin why we didn't have the stub when it was later than 1pm on the day after we arrived, we told him that the hostel was registering it and the stub just hadn't reached us yet.
You might be wondering why the policeman said it needed to have been done by 1pm on the day after arrival, when we have 3 days to get it done. It's because he was setting the interpreter up for the phrase "Well, now there is problem..." The interpreter even had a piece of paper printed out which had the dubious deadline on it. Then he took me aside from Triny and told me that we would have to be arrested, go to the station, get the embassy involved, and the eventual fine would be 3000 roubles each. On the other hand, he said, there is a non-protocol way to deal with it.
End result was a 5000 rouble (£100 ish) cash "fine", and a promise on my part not to talk to anyone about this "unofficial" solution.
It's a bit annoying, because he was playing on my ignorance of the laws about the deadline for registration. Mind you, he also had our passports in his hands and a van load of mates behind him, which seemed to qualify as an instant position of power. I'm trying to look on it as just one of those things.
We are know back in our room trying to decide whether we go out and get some dinner now, or wait until later when our stubs should hopefully have arrived.
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3 comments:
My week in Moscow was spent in a haze. Nobody in the company told us about "Stubs" and we did not have visas. We just presented our passports and they let us in and out. So probably good luck for us and bad luck for you.
Do you think your interpreter was in on the scam?
Barry
What a great idea. Thankyou so much for writing all of this.Isn't most of Barry's life spent in a haze? Have just come back from Tracy's and an iTomb meeting. Apart from living and breathing iTomb John and I managed to have three great offroad rides. It's so dark when the hour goes on. We are snug in our tiny little sitting room. HAVE FUN.XXXX Elaine
Mate!
Why didn't you whip out your Kalashnicov and bust a cap in his ass? Don't blame you really, situations like that can be really intimidating. As you say, just put it down to one of those things. Sounds like you're having a good time despite most of it being on trains.
Hope the scenery gets better as you go and watch out for those Mongolians... ;0)
JK
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